He is Maine’s best-known carpenter and a Gardiner native who spends his summers on Cobbossee Lake. Alex sits down with Ryan Eldridge of Maine Cabin Masters to talk about his wildly successful show and his love for central Maine in today’s episode of Serra Speaks!
Podcast Transcript:
AS 00:06
Thank you for joining us for this episode of Serra Speaks. We have one of Maine's coolest people on today, basically. I wonder if you can guess who it is from the laugh. None other than Ryan Eldridge, Maine Cabin Masters, extraordinaire…
Ryan 00:31
Well, thank you
AS
Mastermind, good human being. Central Maine boy. Did you grow up in Central Maine?
Ryan
I did. I’m from Gardiner?
AS
00:32
You did? I didn't know you were. Okay.
Ryan 00:35
And I married an Augusta girl, so that’s part of the fun of the show.
AS 00:37
So I knew Ashley before I knew you. She and I used to go to this restaurant called Hattie's, the Chowder House and Hollowell, and she and I would hang out back in the day.
Ryan 00:47
Do you have the recipe for the dressing?
AS 00:49
Okay, we've got to get it.
Ryan
That was the best!
AS
Where did it go? And there bisque was like not none other. I used to, as a gift, send their bisque to people out of state because they would do that.
Ryan 00:59
Ryan
Ah it was so good. What's your favorite thing?
AS
What about the bisque?
Ryan
No, on their menu.
AS 01:04
It was the bisque. The bisque was mine. They had a good steak though too.
Ryan 01:06
I was addicted to the chicken. It was a chicken cheddar salad.
AS
Oh my god. I haven't heard that term in years..
Ryan
With, with that house dressing. Good stuff.
AS 01:14
This is old Hollowell, Maine trivia here, people. So Ryan, you've got so many things going on. I don't even know where to start.
Ryan 01:22
Yeah, we got a million things going on.
AS 01:24
A million things. How is the latest episode going? Let's start with what everyone will want to know, Maine Cabin Masters.
Ryan 01:30
Cabin Masters is great. We are finishing up whatever season this is. They were, I think we're our eighth built summer building.
AS
Okay.
Ryan
They do repacks and other special stuff. So I think it’s the twelfth season on TV or something like that.
AS
How did all this happen?
Ryan
You know, the Maine way my niece's best friend's mother worked for the Kennebec Land Trust. The production company was cold calling looking for people, you know who reduce, recycled, you know that Maine ingenuity and of course, the Morrill family came up. Because remember Ashley back then had the potluck shop?
AS
Yeah.
Ryan
And her dad was known and her brother were known for, you know.
AS
Sure.
Ryan
It's funny. I tell people they were picking before American Pickers was cool. And they would doing the barn board and making furniture. Like they were ahead of the game. Kinda. Yeah, I feel like if the internet was around back then we might not have our show.
AS
Really?
Ryan
Yeah. Because I feel like they were doing all that stuff. But the internet wasn't really there. Yeah, social media.
AS 02:22
Yeah. Interesting. So when did you first realize that this was like something? Was after the very first season? Because was it a huge initial reaction? Or was it?
Ryan 02:33
I think I still don't, I don't know if we even still admit it. You know, it's like a one in 1000 ideas, gets a pilot and then one and 100 pilots might get at first season. And the numbers are just amazing how far we made it. But I could, I could see the production company. And I saw that when I saw how they produce the episodes, and it was awesome. Because we were really worried if they were gonna get us or not. You know? How they're gonna portray us as Mainers. You know like, and when they got our jobsite humor and they got our personalities and…it's a build show, but it's a lot about family and being a Mainer and a beautiful state, too. I saw that energy. I was like, we could have something. Because there's so much bad stuff on TV. And our drama is if we find rot, if it's what Ashley is going to do, you got all the brother’s sibling rivalry.
AS 03:21
There's a termite! That's not a good sign.
Ryan
Yeah, right. And the weather.
AS
Yeah, the weather is a major, it's almost like another character in your show.
Ryan
Right?
Alex
It really is. It's like a…
Ryan 03:32
I was driving in right now. And it's cold and wet. And the guys are all inside working. And like, we're lucky enough that we have space now to do inside work if we want, but they all want to be on their jobs. They have a lot of pride, which is amazing.
AS 03:43
Well, and your team's dynamics are so much fun. Like you all the way you interact. It's so, it's so relatable, I think for people because everyone's got that was their crew in Maine, no matter what kind of work they do.
Ryan 03:57
Exactly. And you know, it takes a village to you know, and like, we all want a family. And what's awesome now is like my nephew works for us. And these college kids work for us and see these kids come back. Yeah. And to see a couple kids that went to college in one direction. But I like getting that the light bulb goes on. I really like it. You know, some kids come back and it's a job for them. And I get it. They're there on time. They're hard workers. And then some, some people come back and they like it and you can see them and they're progressing.
AS 04:25
Do you have a favorite project you've done? You probably are asked that all the time.
Ryan
Oh, favorite project?
Alex
Or maybe you're not asked that all the time?
Ryan 04:33
No, we are. So many of them stick out. I mean, we've done over like 120. I've forgotten about so many of them. You know, some of the early ones were fun, you know, obviously doing the one to the drummer of fish. That was pretty amazing.
AS 04:46
That's pretty cool.
Ryan
That was a fun.
Alex
So he lives in?
Ryan
Lincolnville.
AS
I was going to say Appleton Okay, Lincolnville.
Ryan 04:53
Yeah, but we just I remember families more. Like, everyone is amazing. We meet so many great families, but there's some have families that we just connect with. That are like us and become family. Yeah, you know, Everyone's so busy. You know, and it's like, we try to find the time to go. Like, go to the reveal and see this, but you always can't. You know, once a while things click. Yeah, that's so it's connections.
AS 05:15
It is. It's all relationships, isn't it? Yeah. In your show is as much a relationship show as anything, right?
Ryan 05:20
It's half building, half relationship. Yeah.
AS 05:23
And you also have an amazing store and restaurant. Tell us about your complex right in downtown Manchester, Maine!
Ryan 05:30
Beautiful! The metropolis, Right?
AS 05:33
The metropolis! So for people that don't know, Manchester, Maine has a gas station, a little tiny mini mall, a church, a post office…
Ryan 05:39
Ice cream shop.
AS 05:43
a school, a… the center of life in Manchester is this ice cream shop. And now your main office.
Ryan 05:47
And our place. Yeah, we're very lucky. I feel like you know, man, my family's been in Manchester for a long time. And my mother was always like, cause I’ve been working in restaurants, “got to have a restaurant in Manchester. You know this, do this, do that.” And it never really came about until now. And we couldn't have picked a better spot. We're at the crossroads. And you know, all the areas growing and I'm just so proud of like, the growth. And young kids are staying here. Because let's face it, when I graduated from Gardiner, we're out of here. We're going out west skiing, and we're not coming back. Yeah. And now I look around West Gardner and my friends are there and we're all happy and young kids are staying here. And it's vibrant, you know, and what everyone's been doing in Downtown Augusta. And then you got Travis those guys out there like, There’s a lot on. It's pretty neat to see.
AS 06:30
And when you first bought your building, I was like… what year was it built? The building itself?
Ryan
Oh god, 18 something.
Alex
Yeah, I was like, what, what could they possibly? And then there was rumors they're gonna put on a restaurant, they're gonna make it a store.
Ryan,
Oh there were so many rumors.
AS
And I was like, how is that going to work? You have transformed that place. And it is so cool.
Ryan 06:51
It's amazing. You know, Chase and Ashley's vision. I'm not that bright, side brain. Like you guys give me the plans, I will organize the people, I will get the materials, I work took forever to get it done.
AS
Your organization's guy.
Ryan
But it's amazing their vision. And there's some serendipitous stuff going on with our show. It's like I don't, It's just crazy.
AS
Like what?
Ryan
Well, you know, like Ashley and Chases dad passed away right when we got started. He's a big reason for the show. But like, the Daggett family with the pilot was the Daggett camp in Vassalboro. Bev Daggett was in the legislature for a long time, and good friends with the Morrills. And so we just that happened to be the pilot. And then we were looking for a spot to have a store forever and there was nothing around here. Chase had the lease for the old Slates building that burned. We were going to…
AS
That's in Downtown Hallowell?
Ryan
Yep. That’s in Downtown Hallowell. But that was kind of the best option. But there wasn't a lot of parking. We wanted a place where we our nieces and nephews and young kids could work. And he would just happen to be going down the hill and drives by and this Earl Kinney and Tom Daggett bringing the sign out and he pulled right in
AS 07:55
No kidding! Yeah, it's the perfect spot.
Ryan
So perfect.
AS
Because you have so much drive by traffic so much, so much.
Ryan 08:02
I mean, it could be bigger with the place…It's amazing how popular show is and how far people travel to see us in the summer.
AS 08:08
Okay, so tell everyone about your shows. Explain to them what the format is for people to have.
Ryan 08:12
Yeah, so Maine Cabin Masters, we are a group of friends and family who go fix Maine cabins. And we try to save what we can and save the history. And it's just it's just taken off we have over 4000 applications.
AS
Right now?
Ryan
Isn't that crazy?
AS 08:30
That's insane!
Ryan
I personally do…
Alex
And how many do you do in the season?
Ryan 08:34
Between 15 and 20 Maybe. It's crazy, isn't it?
AS 08:39
And it's given birth to so much more for you guys.
Ryan 08:42
So Maine Cabin Masters is owned I believe by the network. So we knew we have one chance to do this and do it right and make it worth it and build a brand. Cause it's not gonna last forever.
AS
Sure.
Ryan
So you know Kennebec Cabin Company is kind of a retail store, “home with the Maine Cabin Masters.” And then we kind of we branch out from there we have the Woodshed, which is the restaurant and event center outback. And, you know, just building this little community, like you know, kind of like Chip and Joanna Did. You know they really figured out. I don't know if you've been to Waco, but their place is amazing. I mean, they have a whole…it's probably the size of Manchester.
AS
Is it really only that big?
Ryan
It's big. They have a little compound.
AS 09:18
I've been to Texas several times, but never to Waco.
Ryan 09:21
And then we were, we just got very lucky again. Knowle’s lumber, they kind of approached us and asked us if we wanted to take it over. They, you know, they had a great opportunity. So they just kind of walked away and gave us the keys and said…
AS
Where is this now?
Ryan
That's in Monmouth. It's an old lumberyard.
AS 09:40
And so that's your like building headquarter?
Ryan 09:43
Yeah. So now we're able to move all our carpentry stuff in our trails and free up some more space at had our worldwide headquarters.
AS
And away from your house.
Ryan
And our houses. Yeah. And it's funny because…
AS 09:51
We drove over to your house, my husband and I, like two summers ago, and it was like, “this every piece of equipment you see on Maine Cabin.” It was all trailers and tools. Yeah, it was a ton. So it's now all over? that’s good. In Monmouth?
Ryan 10:05
It’s over there. And before they say we couldn't find a laser, like some special tool. It was either at chases house, my house. I mean, you people were driving around. so it's gonna make us more efficient. And it allowed us to move a lot of inventory out there. So we were able to double our woodshed seating inside which is awesome.
AS 10:20
That’s awesome. So what are the costs? So, and you have concerts in the summer at the woodshed? Yeah, tell people about what's coming up.
Ryan 10:26
Yeah. So we do. You know, we have music, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, usually a playing guitar. Once a month, we have a bigger event. I think mostly charity events. And we have concerts, and lots of meet and greets, lobster bakes. it’s… our fans are amazing. We wouldn't have any of this without them. So we try to spend some time there. And, you know…
AS
Do people love it?
Ryan
They do. And it's surreal to me, because I don't think about how popular it is until… the summertime Ithe people are like, “this is so crazy!” Like, I mean, it's wild, like how popular TV show is. I don't think we admit it. Because some people like freak out can't talk. You know, it's like…
AS
Oh, sweet, though. That's adorable! Does that make you feel good?
Ryan
It does. It does? It does? What… It can be a lot. But I look at it this way, what a gift to talk to someone to make them happy. That's how I look at it. Because I mean, everyone is so excited to see you. So you have to have that same energy all day long. You know?
AS 11:22
I do know. And do you like, knowing you from before, right, did you ever in your wildest dreams be like, “I'm gonna be the guy that everyone wants their picture taken with?
Ryan
Nah, Nah.
AS
Like, how crazy is that? It's crazy.
Ryan 11:36
I still don't. It's crazy about that, you know, it's like, we didn't… I don't think we realize how big the show was until coming out of the pandemic and just people in droves and like traveling. Like last time we, Ashley and I flew out of Logan, it was like we knew everyone in the, in the terminal. Like literally. “Hey, guys!” Because everyone knows us and they're..it's just a down to earth show.
right?
AS 12:01
You're a little recognizable.
Ryan
Yeah, my hair. My laughs give me away.
AS
The hairdo do that and the goatee. Now, I so where my husband and I live, you did a house, right?
Ryan
Yep.
AS
And people will do the slow drive by, if they figure out. Their… people… are their maps out there? Is it like the Hollywood maps?
Ryan
No.
AS
Because people know where this house is. And it’s crazy.
Ryan
Someone can do tours of Cobbessee.
AS
We’re like, “hey!” And it's but people seek out these properties, like tourists from out of state. To come see a Maine Cabin Masters House.
Ryan 12:26
We don't put the exact location on, but you know, we can't hide what Lake it's on and whatnot.
AS
Right.
Ryan
You know, like our camp is very out in the public on Cobbessee. And there's a couple of rocks out front. And we know where they are. Because people don't realize, I think when…
AS
I know.
Ryan
Within 200 feet, you don't have to have a buoy. People come by, like waving. And we’re like, “no!”
AS 12:46
And they think you're waving at them. And you're like, but you’re like, “get back!” You need a neon sign that says, “rocks.”
Ryan 12:52
Rocks, right?
AS
“Get back.”
Ryan
I like to think most people are pretty respectful. This is gonna come by and give you your space.
AS
Sure.
Ryan
But you know, Cobbessee, God, you could go down the whole lake. We’ve done like 12 Maybe?
AS
Right.
Ryan
We've got three projects going there right now.
AS
On Cobbessee?
Ryan
Yeah.
AS
Wow, thanks for improving the neighborhood there. Friend.
Ryan
Right? I want to fix up… my goal was to fix every camp on Cobbessee.
AS 13:13
Exactly what happened. Lovely. Well, you can come to our house. There are some things I want to do. I want a little addition. I mean, I love my husband, but it was tight during COVID. I’ll tell you what? So what are, what are exciting things that are coming up? Anything new new?
Ryan 13:28
Yeah, so who Knowles Lumber Property, we're putting a woodshop in there. Fixing that up. We're gonna start probably doing larger pieces. You know, furniture and cool stuff like that. I would like to see us or envision us, someone coming into Knowles Lumber and sitting down with Chase and Ashley, like designing something on the computer. Maybe do a 3D printer of it. And then I'd like to start building stuff there and shipping it out.
AS 13:50
Do you ever think about doing stuff with students? Like having a tour or apprentice program or something like that? That’d be so cool.
Ryan 13:57
We've talked about classes, you know, we're big advocates for kids getting into trades.
AS
I know.
Ryan
So we've done, you know, we speak a lot of high schools, we've been going out to Read and Read, they have a new program. It's pretty. A lot of it, some have been some Maine businesses have been very innovative. Like EJP, has their EJP College in house. Like, like let’s find these students in high school and now Read and Read is doing that. And I just think it's amazing.
AS 14:20
What do you think it is about the trades that is so important for young kids in Maine to know? Like if someone's listening to this who's like 15 years old or a parent of a 15 year old and their kid doesn't really, you know, love the academic side of life, is…what would you say to that family?
Ryan 14:38
I think the best… the greatest thing to know now is that tradesmen are getting appreciative and they're getting paid what they deserve. You know, and they're getting benefits and 401Ks, you know. And you know Maine is growing. And let's face it, a lot of people that don't like a traditional school setting, thrive at that.
AS
Yeah.
Ryan
No, I did okay at school, but you know, for your middle class, in Maine…Gardiner like, you're going to four year college. And like I look back, I should have gone right into building.
AS
Did you go to college?
Ryan
I did. Yeah, I got… I went to Orono. Civil Engineer my first year.
AS
Okay.
Ryan
Realize I hated math.
AS
Yeah.
Ryan
But I want to do that, because that's what my dad did. My dad worked on bridges and stuff.
AS
Oh cool.
Ryan
You know, kids, some of you really don't know what, you think you know what you want to do. I think all… personally, if I had kids, go travel for a year, do something. But yeah. And don't be afraid to try the things that, you know. And don't be so, don't be afraid to not be set, unless you really know. And don't be afraid to change your mind. If you do.
AS 15:34
Yeah. 100%. I've had 1000 Different… there's been 1000 Different… actually, we just ran into… Ben and I… Ben… everyone who listens knows Ben produces the show. And so Ben and I today, we're over at the statehouse, we ran into my law school roommate, Carla. And I was like, she knew me when I was a different version of myself. I've had 1000 different versions of, you know, 1000 different lives by the time you're in your mid 40s. It's like, or in my case, late 40s.
Ryan 15:59
The way your path goes.
AS
Yeah!
Ryan
And you think… I know I did a… one of the hardest things I ever did, is I did a commencement speech for high school. And I just told my story. It's like, you know, I thought I was gonna become an engineer. And I was gonna get married and have 2.5 kids, a white picket fence. And then halfway through, I was like, this isn't… you know, this isn't my thing. And I went to Farmington, got English degree. You know, and then I learned how to ski and snowboard. “Well, I'm gonna go ski and snowboard for a while,” and I started carpentry like, Okay, I'm gonna settle down by this, like. It's amazing what your life path…and just know what's going to change. But know, if you go into trades, you can travel anywhere, you can work anywhere.
AS 16:35
You can live in rural Maine, and have a wonderful life. And here's the cool thing, I am not a tradesperson. Like, I'm not crafty at all. I have no skills whatsoever, basically.
Ryan
Don’t sell yourself short.
AS
This couldn't apply to me. But you really do make people's lives better by what you create. And that is so amazing. If you can make a beautiful cabinet, if you can, you know, fix someone's porch, if you, that is literally a kind of an act of kindness and a bit of grace you pass on to someone by what you're capable of doing. As opposed to a lot of quote unquote, the professional fields that you know, there's 12 layers before you get to the person you're serving.
Ryan 17:15
Right.
AS
So I think it's the coolest!
Ryan
I…one of the biggest beliefs I have, is that if you have a personality and will to work and work ethic, you can make it, you know. You don't have to be the smartest person, you just have to be a good person. You know, have a personality. Be able to work, to take direction, and work hard. And you'll even go places
AS 17:36
There was a… I totally agree. There was a great there was a famous basketball player who was super short. And he always said it.
Ryan
Spud Webb?
AS
And he said, “I'm going to be the hardest working member of the team.” And I can't remember who it was. But he was… it was like the early 2000s. Anyway, I never forgot that. Because you know, if you're not, if God didn't give you seven feet for which to reach the hoop.
Ryan
Or a high IQ.
AS
Or high IQ to get the PhD
Ryan 18:00
or model looks.
AS
Or model looks.
Ryan
none of which I have.
AS 18:05
I know. Listen. Who are you talking to?
Ryan
You can make it!
AS
You know, it's about hard work. And you guys have certainly shown that. But you're also all really cute and fun and funny.
Ryan 18:13
We have, we have a lot of fun, you know, and we just witnessed ourselves, you know. It's like, yeah, we'd be doing this if we weren't if there wasn't a film crew there anyways. So we've been given opportunities… doors we can open…that… you know, if we work really hard… that's the thing that was like, “Oh, you're on TV!” If you would have told me 10 years ago, you're gonna be on TV for eight years, and you're not going to be a million… like… I'm like, “No way!” You know, we're on TV. Doors are opening. Now we're starting to see other doors open, but we've worked harder than we ever had. You know, we can't stop now.
AS 18:45
What do you love about living in Maine?
Ryan 18:49
That's, we could talk for days. You know, like I said, we've all lived… Most of us traveled out west, we skied out west, and we loved it. And it was fun. But it wasn't home. You know, and I grew up in Maine. It's a safe way of life. Sometimes we're sheltered in some ways. But everyone's just a good person. Like you… You say hi to the person… you look someone in the eye when you walk by, you say hi to them. You're not afraid to talk to someone you don't know. You know, it's…I think it's everyone's… Everyone's open. You know, it's not closed. Yeah, I think when in big cities, you're in your own little world. Where, Maine, we're all omnipresent. We're, you know, we're in it together. It's not… the seasons are hard. You know, life can be tough. You know, we all have good days, bad days, times when we can't pay the bills, times when things are good, but there's always someone around, you know.
AS 19:37
I do. And it's… especially Central Maine. I always say it's three degrees of separation, it is truly one degree of separation. I mean, you know everyone that I know, and I know everyone that you know. And you see it at, you know, birthday parties, funerals, community events, whatever. It really is like a big, giant how it should be kind of network.
Ryan 19:58
I think we're just so lucky to be here. And, you know, the cost of living is a lot more you know, as you travel, and the weather is not as great. But you can't put a price on, you know, these other things we get, you know, the beauty. Like, Maine in the summer, those four months, it just… there's no other place I'd rather be in the world.
AS 20:14
It's… it's… for people that haven't experienced a Maine summer. It's something from your wildest dreams. It's got to be what heaven is like, because it's just delicious. Those four months are incredible. I mean, January, February, don't get me wrong, are painful physically and emotionally for me. I can't take it. It's gray, It's… it's like you haven't even hit mud season yet. You know, the holidays are over.
Ryan
Right?
AS
You know, it's brutal. But it's so worth it, once you start hitting July, August. It's…
Ryan 20:48
And, you know, we love to travel. And I think the more I travel, the more I appreciate home. You know, and then the more I realize how we're… we're all the same. You know, people. You know, especially going overseas like you're meant to see ah what, you know, the world's that's a bad place. You gotta worry like… We went to Dubai with all my niece and nephews, we were so worried. You know, blond hair, blue eyes, you know, we gotta watch it. It's not safe. We went over there. And they don't even bat an eye at us. They're all in their burkas, with their flat brim hats and their Nikes and a sunglasses. And everyone was just so nice. And I'll never forget this. We were, we were on a trip, we were coming back, and our guide had an extra hour. She was like, “you want to go over the dunes back to Dubai?” And we did. And we're going through, like, you’d see like campers and set up over there. You see a fire over here. And it just clicked to me. It was Friday night and they all go out in the desert to go camping, like everyone here goes up north. And it's like…
AS
That's so cool.
Ryan
You know, people around the world, we're all the same.
AS
Yeah.
Ryan
There’s too much bad, negative stuff.
AS 21:43
But, yeah, we just got to get all of our political leaders from around the world to see the humanity in each other. And we'll be halfway there. What's Up for the future, Ryan? What are you looking forward to? What are some goals?
Ryan 21:56
Well, you know, to make this all worth it, you know, to make all this hard work, you know, it did last decades flown by. You know, I want to make it work it, worth it. I want to, we want to set a business up that other people can take over. And whether it's our nieces, nephews or someone. You know, build something that's gonna last. You know, and keep fixing up cabins and saving them. Saving the history.
AS 22:19
It's so cool. Okay, one last question. What do you consume? What do you read? What music do you listen to? Where do you get your news? What is on your Instagram feed?
Ryan 22:33
Everyone knows I love the Grateful Dead. And I… you know, I'm
AS 22:35
You do? I haven't heard that. I can't imagine that. So not what I would think right?
Ryan 22:40
It's sirius satellite. Sirius since 2005 or so. I listen to that a lot. Yeah. I just, I read a lot on my phone or, you know, just new stuff, when I'm trying to go to bed. And not a big magazine, a book reader. I, you know, Ashley and I love true crime.
AS
Yeah.
Ryan
Documentaries, podcast.
AS
Yeah.
Ryan
We don't agree on a lot of movies.
AS 23:04
That's the most popular podcast category. Crime category. just fun little factoid.
Ryan 23:11
And I love watching how other people build stuff. You know, online. I didn't do reels for a long time, and I started watching them. And now it's like, you've watched something cool. And you're like, you're going down a rabbit hole forever. But I just love how, you know people solve problems and other places and how they build stuff.
AS
Yeah.
Ryan
It's really cool.
AS 23:28
Well, we love watching you build stuff. And I…
Ryan
Thank you.
AS
And I had the privilege to watch you build your legacy. Because you're right in the middle of doing, for your family and for everyone after you. So thanks for everything you're doing for Maine, for Central Maine, for Manchester, Maine, my area of residence, and your beloved Maine figure.
Ryan 23:48
Oh, well, thank you for the kind words.
AS
Here we are.
Ryan
We're just happy to be here to be a part of it.
AS 23:51
I'm happy to be here. Happy to be here with you. Thanks for listening to this episode of Serra Speaks.
AS 24:01
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